Venom: H6 Gen2 Liberty GX

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:47 pm

I bet you'll notice a difference with the brakes! How many days to go now??

Cheers

Bennie

Bumpty · Post by **Bumpty** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:12 pm

Mate, impressive Lib!
I think you've conviced me to upgrade from my gen1

H6 in the vid sounds like there is plenty of grunt..

Venom · Post by **Venom** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:17 pm

El_Freddo wrote:I bet you'll notice a difference with the brakes! How many days to go now??

Cheers

Bennie

The brakes make a big difference. Both the L series and the Liberty didn't fill me fill confidence when it came to braking. Now i'm really happy with how it stops and i'm not so concerned about the bigger tyres.

Bumpty wrote:Mate, impressive Lib!
I think you've conviced me to upgrade from my gen1

H6 in the vid sounds like there is plenty of grunt..

Put a H6 in your Gen1! These motors get a bad rap because they're mated to pathetic auto from factory, but no shit they pull your hair back with a manual box. Even without a low range this car rarely stops and stalls even on tough ascents when off-roading.

ScubyRoo · Post by **ScubyRoo** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:20 pm

Venom wrote: Even without a low range this car rarely stops and stalls even on tough ascents when off-roading.

That's cause the tires are too busy spinning

:twisted:

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:42 pm

Venom wrote:Even without a low range this car rarely stops and stalls even on tough ascents when off-roading.

ScubyRoo wrote:That's cause the tires are too busy spinning :twisted:

He got up that slippery section before we met those big 4wders with less wheel spin than you Owen

I really can't wait for you to get the dual range sorted Rhys - You'll be 4wd'n off your tits then! SO can't wait!

Cheers

Bennie

Bumpty · Post by **Bumpty** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:32 pm

Any plans of going to 15" rims to fit some nice muddies. Or sticking with the all terrains?

Venom · Post by **Venom** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:07 am

I would like some 15" rims and a chunky set of muddies but they won't fit over the 4 pot front callipers.

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:42 pm

dont spoil it with muddies. you have a pretty awesome all purpose vehicle there. im way jealous

Venom · Post by **Venom** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:34 am

vincentvega wrote:dont spoil it with muddies. you have a pretty awesome all purpose vehicle there. im way jealous

Thanks for the positive comments.

I did a tour of the pick-a-parts in melbourne yesterday looking for a new radio surround. Out of 3 wreckers i only found 1 Gen2 wagon and it had a cargo blind, fitting kit for a cargo barrier (dual position kit), a complete set of mud flaps, new cup holders and a black dual range knob (I had a grey one) and the whole lot only cost me $35!!!! Couldn't believe it. I already had a milford cargo barrier fitting kit on order from Opposite Lock and it was going to set me back $160. Very happy with that little find.

Cheers,
Rhys

ScubyRoo · Post by **ScubyRoo** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:05 am

Venom wrote:Thanks for the positive comments.

I did a tour of the pick-a-parts in melbourne yesterday looking for a new radio surround. Out of 3 wreckers i only found 1 Gen2 wagon and it had a cargo blind, fitting kit for a cargo barrier (dual position kit), a complete set of mud flaps, new cup holders and a black dual range knob (I had a grey one) and the whole lot only cost me $35!!!! Couldn't believe it. I already had a milford cargo barrier fitting kit on order from Opposite Lock and it was going to set me back $160. Very happy with that little find.

Cheers,
Rhys

Bargin! I don't suppose the manual gearbox was still in it? If so which wreckers?

Venom · Post by **Venom** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:39 am

Box was still there, the car was at kilsyth PAP the first subaru inside the gate.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:47 pm

Good one Rhys!

I'm headed down for some drive shafts on Thursday + I'll be picking up some retro ski's that I got on ebay

Looking forward to it, but it will be an epic day!

Cheers

Bennie

Bumpty · Post by **Bumpty** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:39 pm

Venom wrote:Thanks for the positive comments.

I did a tour of the pick-a-parts in melbourne yesterday looking for a new radio surround. Out of 3 wreckers i only found 1 Gen2 wagon and it had a cargo blind, fitting kit for a cargo barrier (dual position kit), a complete set of mud flaps, new cup holders and a black dual range knob (I had a grey one) and the whole lot only cost me $35!!!! Couldn't believe it. I already had a milford cargo barrier fitting kit on order from Opposite Lock and it was going to set me back $160. Very happy with that little find.

Cheers,
Rhys

By mud flaps you mean the moulding that fits around the body?

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:33 pm

Bumpty wrote:By mud flaps you mean the moulding that fits around the body?

Around the rear of the wheel arch that then hangs down behind the wheels

Cheers

Bennie

Venom · Post by **Venom** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:45 pm

Finally got some pictures.

The rear driveshafts out of my car alongside the clutch LSD.

4 pots!

27" tyre in the spare wheel well.

Ebay cargo barrier with freebie fitting kit.

The gen1 dual range box with the L series low range alongside the FT4WD centre locking box.

Vented rears.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:10 am

Great to see some pics mate! I did kind of sh!t my pants when I saw this one:

Venom wrote: The gen1 dual range box with the L series low range alongside the FT4WD centre locking box.

Only because my box doesn't have the low range lever setup the same as yours - I thought I had a single range hence the pants situation - I paid quite a bit for that box and I'll be SPEWING if it's a single range...

So I dug through my images as I know I've got a couple of recent pics of the box as I was trying to work something out. Here's the one that shows why I was worried - I started to question if I knew the difference between the PT Single range 4wd and the AWD with locking centre:

^ The locking lever being in the same spot as yours made me happy as well as this:

^ You can clearly see the centre diff in here

and this makes me happy.

Now just to get it into another set of casings, replace bearings (having second thoughts on this due to price, time and not knowing if it's really needed - but also want it done properly the first time), change diff ratio, shove in L series good low range and get it in Ruby Scoo...

Sorry for the hijack!

Cheers

Bennie

Venom · Post by **Venom** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:12 am

I am seriously thinking about a WRX 4EAT with VTD. I want the slowest crawl speed possible and a strong reliable gearbox. A tricked out custom manual box would be awesome, but if it ****s up then i am up the proverbial to replace it. Its basically a one off, if it self destructs i could be up for 4 gearboxes to create another one. Or i replace it with a stock manual gearbox and wish i'd just gone with an auto in the first place.

The H6 is a more powerfull motor than a dual range was designed for. But the WRX 4EAT is factory built for more power than my engine is ever going to have, or it will be up to the task if i add a supercharger to my motor further down the track. Supercharged H6 with a custom 5MT dual range? Surely a disaster waiting to happen.

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:30 pm

Now you are talking

WRX 4.11 auto box mid section and VTD rear end
Turbo Legacy 4.44 front diff housing
Gen2 outback speedo gears
WRX or TT legacy TCU to drive it depening on your TPS polarity.

Go for a drive in a H6 auto first though. I am not a fan. They make their power up high and the auto box makes them feel sluggish.

It would be awesome offroad though.

Venom · Post by **Venom** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:20 pm

vincentvega wrote:Now you are talking

WRX 4.11 auto box mid section and VTD rear end
Turbo Legacy 4.44 front diff housing
Gen2 outback speedo gears
WRX or TT legacy TCU to drive it depening on your TPS polarity.

Go for a drive in a H6 auto first though. I am not a fan. They make their power up high and the auto box makes them feel sluggish.

It would be awesome offroad though.

Thanks for the input. That combo you've mentioned though is another franken box and the thought of that really puts me off. Not as much as a franken 5MT but I would still need to gather more parts and have it built

Fkn annoying. I want to get something in the car to start kicking ass at low speed in the next 4-6 weeks.

I know what you mean about H6 auto's been gutless at low RPM and that makes me reluctant too. Every complaint i hear about the H6 comes down to the auto. The last thing i want is to lose my bottom end torque, which i have in spades at the moment with my STI driveline. I am hoping that a stock WRX auto is a different beast.

I'm also not sure about the H6 TCU and wether or not a turbo TCU is a direct/easy replacement or not. I'm not even sure my car still has the TCU, although i'm assuming it does to run the ECU. It could be a nightmare to get the auto running wiring wise so that is also going to determine things to a large extent.

Another option is to get rid of the lift and outback suspension and buy a lift for the MY wagon i'm driving at the moment. I could even put the CLSD and OBX helical LSD into the FT4WD box i have and put that in the MY. I don't think you can get much more simple and reliable than an EA81. Hmm then what about the inner CV joints, probably needs custom driveshafts.

Too many cars, options and parts is starting to annoy me

Less is more, more is less?:mad:

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:30 pm

Venom wrote:I am seriously thinking about a WRX 4EAT with VTD. I want the slowest crawl speed possible and a strong reliable gearbox.

And there goes the one thing that makes your H6 stand out from the crowd!

Why not give the tricked out manual dual range box a go - it's going pretty good for the H6 foz without a problem. And I reckon you know how to look after it unlike others around the place if that's what your worried about - I think this is also part of the reason why you selected this unique subi as well.

If the tricked out manual dies then maybe look at doing the MY as the offroader and drop the H6 back on its guts with the current 'box and give the WRX's a run for their money

Going down the MY route wouldn't be a bad thing - Subaruby's goes pretty well for what is essentially a stock drive train. As for the FT4wd box being dropped in, if you were to split it to put the good low range in you'd also swap the diff output stubs to the same as the MY - stock drive shafts this way

I'd love to see you do the dual range gearbox with the H6 - it would really unleash the potential of the offroad in the H6 lib and would be an awesome offroad weapon!

Cheers

Bennie