60766244's Back/Roof Racks for Brumby's!

60766244 · Post by **60766244** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:31 pm

So I have a 15' Sea Kayak and a 16' Canadian Canoe that I've been unable to transport since I got Brumby. I've finally decided to commit to sorting it out.

This is my idea for a back/roof rack I'm going to make out of 25mm box section. The reason I'm using 25mm box section?
I have a heap of it lying about begging to be used.

Note: Updated to a Version 2.0 further on in the thread.

It's been designed to fit the standard mounts on the back of the Brumby and replace the two uprights that come with it.

The bottom bar is for the Tonneau cover to mount onto, and the top bar is so the boats can rest on that.

I plan to make a special, removable mount to suit the bar that will cradle the kayak, and for transport the kayak will be tied at each end to the back and front of the ute.

The plan is to get it coated by RhinoLiner when I get the door panels/inner-handles, center console, tray and possibly the panel that the stereo mounts onto covered too.

As usual, critiques, commentary, and suggestions welcome.

Anyone else made some on here? I've seen some here and there on the interwebs before.

Rodeo4jake · Post by **Rodeo4jake** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:40 pm

I can't see any issues with that plan, I've seen a few different frames made to suit those 4 bolts around the rear window.
Will you be making a bar to go at the rear of some sort?

60766244 · Post by **60766244** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:46 pm

I don't plan on it so far.

When I used to transport them on the Landbruiser ute I simply rested them on the roof-rack bar and tied each end down. Never moved an inch. The cradle I plan to build after will have small rollers to aid loading and I think should stabilize it more.

If they wobble some I might consider it, but I prefer minimalism if I can.

Rodeo4jake · Post by **Rodeo4jake** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:30 pm

I guess that will be fine then, the roof line on ya Brumby is much lower than a cruiser. That way they won't stick up in the front as much.

60766244 · Post by **60766244** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:20 pm

Rodeo4jake wrote:I guess that will be fine then, the roof line on ya Brumby is much lower than a cruiser. That way they won't stick up in the front as much.

Haha I'll be trying to get it level as I can.

I know landbruisers are banned on here, but this is thread specific, and there's a Subaru shot too...

Picked that beautiful bit of Aluminum up for $100!

T.Farm.Brumby · Post by **T.Farm.Brumby** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:29 pm

60766244 wrote:
Picked that beautiful bit of Aluminum up for $100!

Keen to see how ridiculously long this looks on the Brumby

Loving all these profesh designs you keep posting, nice to see as an engineer

60766244 · Post by **60766244** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:45 pm

T.Farm.Brumby wrote:Keen to see how ridiculously long this looks on the Brumby

Loving all these profesh designs you keep posting, nice to see as an engineer

Haha! Don't Laugh! I've seen Suzuki Jimny's with Viper-Type K1 Racing Kayaks stacked up on them fanging down the highway to marathons. Now that's funny.

I am but a humble 3D designer using a simple free to web program.

Is that what you do for a profession? Seems like a lot of fun. My jobs consist of carrying out Engineers plans.

T.Farm.Brumby · Post by **T.Farm.Brumby** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:52 pm

60766244 wrote: I am but a humble 3D designer using a simple free to web program. Is that what you do for a profession?

Well, engineer in training. Still a poor-ass uni student, or I'd have a brand spankin' STi to show off on here

60766244 wrote: My jobs consist of carrying out Engineers plans.

You poor bastard

I know what we do hahahah

I want to get a start somewhere automotive or maybe metal fab for part time work though, working in a kitchen is getting tedious

all I want to do is work on machines!

60766244 · Post by **60766244** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:36 pm

T.Farm.Brumby wrote:Well, engineer in training. Still a poor-ass uni student, or I'd have a brand spankin' STi to show off on here

You poor bastard I know what we do hahahah

I want to get a start somewhere automotive or maybe metal fab for part time work though, working in a kitchen is getting tedious all I want to do is work on machines!

Hahah yes, engineers drawings can be... imaginative.

I'm angling towards fitter/machinist if I can get the apprenticeship!

Silverbullet · Post by **Silverbullet** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:48 pm

I know this may be off topic but, I would be very wary of starting an engineering career that's tied directly to the automotive industry in this country. I'm an apprentice tool maker and every one at my host company is saying the factory could close any week now. I'm not really expecting to be able to finish my 4 years as a tool maker (there are literally no press shops in this city) will probably go into more general machining/mechanical engineering if it doesn't work out. Only had to see last night on the telly the new head of the manufacturing industry supervisor or whatever she is say the automotive engineering industry is a "sun set industry in this country"

But there is still work in fabrication not related to cars if you can find it. Not sure on fitting/machining but there might be some work related to mining.
I'm playing with the idea of going through uni straight after I finish anyway to get some more papers behind my skills.

Just a little advice

T.Farm.Brumby · Post by **T.Farm.Brumby** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:10 pm

Silverbullet wrote:I know this may be off topic but, I would be very wary of starting an engineering career that's tied directly to the automotive industry in this country. I'm an apprentice tool maker and every one at my host company is saying the factory could close any week now. I'm not really expecting to be able to finish my 4 years as a tool maker (there are literally no press shops in this city) will probably go into more general machining/mechanical engineering if it doesn't work out. Only had to see last night on the telly the new head of the manufacturing industry supervisor or whatever she is say the automotive engineering industry is a "sun set industry in this country"
But there is still work in fabrication not related to cars if you can find it. Not sure on fitting/machining but there might be some work related to mining.
I'm playing with the idea of going through uni straight after I finish anyway to get some more papers behind my skills.

Just a little advice

I'm majoring in Mining Engineering hahaha, it was a toss up between mechanical and mining but I heard some very similar advice about 6 months ago so I went for mining. They share a fair few subjects here at UQ anyway so it's all good

I'm more interested in doing the mech. work as a hobby and for some extra cash. Love the work but like you said, not as sustainable as mining right now

60766244 · Post by **60766244** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:46 pm

Silverbullet wrote:I know this may be off topic but, I would be very wary of starting an engineering career that's tied directly to the automotive industry in this country. I'm an apprentice tool maker and every one at my host company is saying the factory could close any week now. I'm not really expecting to be able to finish my 4 years as a tool maker (there are literally no press shops in this city) will probably go into more general machining/mechanical engineering if it doesn't work out. Only had to see last night on the telly the new head of the manufacturing industry supervisor or whatever she is say the automotive engineering industry is a "sun set industry in this country"
But there is still work in fabrication not related to cars if you can find it. Not sure on fitting/machining but there might be some work related to mining.
I'm playing with the idea of going through uni straight after I finish anyway to get some more papers behind my skills.

Just a little advice

Thank-you for your insight and experience. The fitter/machinist I am looking at specializes in mining equipment, and has done for 40 years. If there's no hope for mining in this country, we're all doomed. Hopefully you can get enough credit from your course and either finish it interstate or overseas temporarily?

60766244 · Post by **60766244** » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:03 pm

Been a while since I posted in the thread.

Short story: I've been convinced it's not good enough in version 1.0 - Sure it'd work exactly as needed, but I decided aesthetically I didn't want Brumby to have permanent horns. So I've been putting off doing it until I re-designed it.

Long story: Well... This... Made the top section removable...

P.S. Sorry it's a bit big, my resizing program went awol.

Going to go cut the steel now. No more procrastination.

60766244 · Post by **60766244** » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:23 pm

Got the most of it done today.

Still needs holes drilled to mount it, and two pin holes to ensure the top section does not move at all during transit. Weld on a few caps. Then a lovely paint job and she'll be done.

All the black paint is a heap of black anti-rust primer I sprayed into the tubes while hot so when I seal the horizontal ones up there's zero chance of rusting later on.

Hope you all had a sweet weekend!

Rodeo4jake · Post by **Rodeo4jake** » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:10 pm

G'day,
This looks like it's coming along nicely, I like your attention to detail in the planning stages. Makes for a much smoother project in the end I'll bet.

I'm more of a suck it see type fabricator & things often don't turn out anything like I 1st planned.

60766244 · Post by **60766244** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:30 pm

I tend to obsess on ideas in my head while I work/sleep for a long time before I do anything about them...

Usually it means things go well when I build stuff. Usually...

I made the horns today and started the process of drilling it and getting it mountable and plugged some of the pipes.

Once all that's done I'll go get a wire wheel or two and give it a nice clean before the painting!

RSR 555 · Post by **RSR 555** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:31 am

Looks good. What are the plans for mounting it?

cerebro · Post by **cerebro** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:47 am

The plans look great, what's the design program called? and you mentioned it's free
Nice to see a plan in action.

60766244 · Post by **60766244** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:54 pm

cerebro wrote:The plans look great, what's the design program called? and you mentioned it's free
Nice to see a plan in action.

Google Sketchup - when you first download and install the program it has a tutorial you can follow, play with that for a few hours before you get stuck into making something yourself. It's a pretty good program once you get a handle on it!

RSR 555 wrote:Looks good. What are the plans for mounting it?

It should fit exactly where the old two upright brackets go...

That reminds me! Gotta go to bunnings to get some wire wheels to tidy it all up.

I'll bring it in Maple tomorrow when I take her down for you to look over. Just did the Oil/Filter on the engine 5 minutes ago.