1982 MY wagon wiring overhaul.
1982 MY wagon wiring overhaul.
Well, my old wagon had an electrical fault for the last time .
So out came the sidecutters and stanley knife and boom,
Eeeeewwwwlll, what a friggn mess. 30 years of new stereo's, rigged fuses, twitched and wrapped connections, ground loops, patched wiring, addon features, power window fixes and general lack of any care taken to keep it neat and professional have resulted in very odd behaviour of some things. Final straw was wednesday when half my dash stopped working, the indicator would only indicate a right turn and the motors spark going away every 60 odd seconds. Enough was enough. Out it all comes and time for some new wiring.
Will keep posted what I do. Maybe one day someone may find the info usefull. Probably going to be a bit different from factory. Cruise control will be added, along with an accesspack (work thing). I already pissed off the thermo fan circuit in favour of a switch. Might reinstall it with both this time, just incase I forget to flick it on. other small things like that.
Regards
Doug
So out came the sidecutters and stanley knife and boom,
Eeeeewwwwlll, what a friggn mess. 30 years of new stereo's, rigged fuses, twitched and wrapped connections, ground loops, patched wiring, addon features, power window fixes and general lack of any care taken to keep it neat and professional have resulted in very odd behaviour of some things. Final straw was wednesday when half my dash stopped working, the indicator would only indicate a right turn and the motors spark going away every 60 odd seconds. Enough was enough. Out it all comes and time for some new wiring.
Will keep posted what I do. Maybe one day someone may find the info usefull. Probably going to be a bit different from factory. Cruise control will be added, along with an accesspack (work thing). I already pissed off the thermo fan circuit in favour of a switch. Might reinstall it with both this time, just incase I forget to flick it on. other small things like that.
Regards
Doug
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Well that looks rather permanent
Have fun putting in the new loom and the accesspack, so you will have to log in when you want to start up and log out when you shut down. what about a shock watch? probably not a good idea if you go 4WD
you may want to hold onto those blue diodes in the loom the can be worth a pretty penny.
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Have fun putting in the new loom and the accesspack, so you will have to log in when you want to start up and log out when you shut down. what about a shock watch? probably not a good idea if you go 4WD
you may want to hold onto those blue diodes in the loom the can be worth a pretty penny.
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It happens , don't it, from being in a hurry to add that electrical item and get out of that organ cramping posture under the dash. Ya take a direct path with an odd coloured bit of wire , ending up too short to follow the rest of the loom.....
I swear next car I alter at all is gonna get a new fuse box added in somewhere central with three sections BATTERY + , ACC + and IGN + and it is going to be central to any electrical mods. The Fuji looms are so well made, joined, wrapped and wrapped again yet to find internal fault in any of mine. Will never use those hardware and auto elec style crimp terminals or squeeze splice connectors. It is either genuine wiring and connectors, solder and heatshrink or those oven style crimps for 240V stuff Utilux H953? and their No62 crimp tool. Hope this is not the demise of the beast Doug !
I swear next car I alter at all is gonna get a new fuse box added in somewhere central with three sections BATTERY + , ACC + and IGN + and it is going to be central to any electrical mods. The Fuji looms are so well made, joined, wrapped and wrapped again yet to find internal fault in any of mine. Will never use those hardware and auto elec style crimp terminals or squeeze splice connectors. It is either genuine wiring and connectors, solder and heatshrink or those oven style crimps for 240V stuff Utilux H953? and their No62 crimp tool. Hope this is not the demise of the beast Doug !
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I second that, crimp connectors are rubbish. You can crush em as hard as you can only for the wire to drop straight out again or stay in and have a crap connection that you can't see. Solder and heat shrink all the way.steptoe wrote: Will never use those hardware and auto elec style crimp terminals or squeeze splice connectors. It is either genuine wiring and connectors, solder and heatshrink or those oven style crimps for 240V stuff Utilux H953? and their No62 crimp tool. Hope this is not the demise of the beast Doug !
Will it ever end!?
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
-EA81 TWIN CARB!!!!
-L series 5 speed
-Custom paint job
-2" lift
-Full custom re-wire
-L series front end
Very permanent, Had to be to stop me taking shortcuts .
Holding onto the whole loom for a bit, connectors may come in handy.
Demize of the beast?? Demize of the Beast!! Hell no! Id drive this thing till it dies! Little bit of copper aint gonna stop me
Deffinately going to be a solder, shrinkwrap job. Crimp connectors are great (if crimped correctly), but as soon as the copper oxidises, you get funny things like current where it shouldnt be. Its things like that that destroy digi dash's and turn your headlights on when you put your wipers on .
I do assemble and manifacture electronics for a living though. This is going to be a cake walk as far as Im conserned. One thing that wiring does take is time though. I dont really like making looms, but I do have a secret wepon.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOcpOVO3pxQ
Vid made by my boss. One awesome tool for sure, though I probably wont use it. Not enough wires the same length to justify .
What would be cool is a more modern digi dash. LCD displays, glass cockpit style .
Will probably get started some time during the week. havent decided if ive gutted it enough .
Regards
Doug
Holding onto the whole loom for a bit, connectors may come in handy.
Demize of the beast?? Demize of the Beast!! Hell no! Id drive this thing till it dies! Little bit of copper aint gonna stop me
Deffinately going to be a solder, shrinkwrap job. Crimp connectors are great (if crimped correctly), but as soon as the copper oxidises, you get funny things like current where it shouldnt be. Its things like that that destroy digi dash's and turn your headlights on when you put your wipers on .
I do assemble and manifacture electronics for a living though. This is going to be a cake walk as far as Im conserned. One thing that wiring does take is time though. I dont really like making looms, but I do have a secret wepon.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOcpOVO3pxQ
Vid made by my boss. One awesome tool for sure, though I probably wont use it. Not enough wires the same length to justify .
What would be cool is a more modern digi dash. LCD displays, glass cockpit style .
Will probably get started some time during the week. havent decided if ive gutted it enough .
Regards
Doug
Yes. Highly recommended not sticking anything in it but wire .steptoe wrote:The 'orgasmatron' eh ?!
Careful how you use it, may become an OH&S thing Or is it WH&S now ?
Seriously though. Sit down, cut a piece of wire eactly the right length, strip the insulation off both ends exxactly the right length, then twist both ends. Then do it another 100 times. The orgasmatron turns a 1hour job out in around 2 min.
Regards
Doug
Well, finally got some time to do some wiring in the old girl. stripped out a few more bits of crappy wire, removed some relays (starter relay had been replaced at one stage and is hanging, yes, hanging from its wires under the spare wheel bracket ) I will relocate it down with the rest of the relays on top of the wheel arch. Made up a new engine loom, the old one was brittle and beyond redemption. Pissed off the stock connector in favor of one with some more wires. They will come in handy for future projects.
Still need to cover it in some heat shielding but that can be done later.
Just going to get some heavy duty cable for the main power feed and will continue after that.
Regards
Doug
Still need to cover it in some heat shielding but that can be done later.
Just going to get some heavy duty cable for the main power feed and will continue after that.
Regards
Doug
Yeah, only really need 1 wire on this beast for the disty. The rest are optional .
Actually I do have a question now. I noticed some time ago that my oil gauge light stopped working. A quick inspect at the time showed the wire had gotten torn off (During some harmless bush bashing ). My original dash was the digi and didnt have the gauge, just a light. This analog one has a gauge. Anyone know where I can pick up a progressive sender for the ea81?
Regards
Doug
Actually I do have a question now. I noticed some time ago that my oil gauge light stopped working. A quick inspect at the time showed the wire had gotten torn off (During some harmless bush bashing ). My original dash was the digi and didnt have the gauge, just a light. This analog one has a gauge. Anyone know where I can pick up a progressive sender for the ea81?
Regards
Doug
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this is the one the wagon should have, it is the same as the vortex one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IMC-802-49006-3 ... 5d&vxp=mtr
or this one with a smaller pitch on the thread
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Standard-Motor- ... 10&vxp=mtr
this one is a bit cheaper
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Beck-Arnley- ... 5649565076
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/IMC-802-49006-3 ... 5d&vxp=mtr
or this one with a smaller pitch on the thread
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Standard-Motor- ... 10&vxp=mtr
this one is a bit cheaper
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Beck-Arnley- ... 5649565076
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You should have the big one in the first auction it is a "pressure sender" and works on the pressure of the oil causing variable voltage. the smaller ones are pressure switches, which as SB said turn on when the oil pressure is low normally under 2 psi. (you probably know all this anyway)
If you had the light in the digital dash it means somewhere on the engine or on the oil pump is another sender. I was under the impression the digital dash had an oil guage as well.
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If you had the light in the digital dash it means somewhere on the engine or on the oil pump is another sender. I was under the impression the digital dash had an oil guage as well.
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Not an issue Toonga, I knew what you meant . If it put out a variable voltage, it would need 2 wires. One for ign and one for signal, unless it produced its own voltage, but I highly doubt that. Too complex for just oil pressure.
Kids screaming in the back yard? sounds like you need some naptime,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF_nfazQaek
Regards
Doug
Kids screaming in the back yard? sounds like you need some naptime,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF_nfazQaek
Regards
Doug
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Hey Doug, I should have the larger style one that suits the pressure gauge, if you need one?
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