Wanted XT Vortex Intermittent Wiper Unit

Subydoug · Post by **Subydoug** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:51 pm

It was mentioned already but you really need to get a meter on that circuit when its playing up and make sure its actually the relay thats at fault....Power it up on the bench and make sure the pixies are getting from a to b...

or throw the whole thing in the bin and make a new one.

Regards

Doug

mattw · Post by **mattw** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:31 am

If I had a Vortex in front of me, where is this bad boy located? Not making promises but if I know where to look I may be able to help.

Post by **TOONGA** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:23 am

I had so much fun getting to this one. It lives in front of the gear shift under the centre console.

this picture was taken through the hole for the ashtray.

the 1985 module is unusable I got this picture from nncoolg

I was told the 1986 onward module is the same as mine, but mine is the 1987-88 model which was the second model change from what I've read and been told.

If you can find one I'm willing to buy it from you.

TOONGA

Post by **Bantum** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:01 pm

Ok - I did a bit of digging & found this as an equivalent to the NEC MR301:

Data sheet from here : http://www.digchip.com/datasheets/parts ... 1S-pdf.php

They can be found here also :

https://wellgainelectronics.com/module/ ... QueryTyped

This one they do have : NEC MR301-12HSL U

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That looks just about right - So you can still get them ...

Cheers, Bantum ...

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:42 pm

TOONGA, yours is not the second model, OK, it may be the second time the Vort got changed, makes it the third model. The second model is the 87.5 as the US guys like to call it- made over just six month period before your version kept getting made for a few years....

Post by **TOONGA** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:36 pm

steptoe wrote:TOONGA, yours is not the second model, OK, it may be the second time the Vort got changed, makes it the third model. The second model is the 87.5 as the US guys like to call it- made over just six month period before your version kept getting made for a few years....

Yep the 87 build with the 88 compliance plate, the on the US guys call the 87.5 is that correct ? that's what mine is

the 87 build with the 88 compliance plate

so is that the 2nd or 3rd version

or the 2.5.

Ive bought these as 10 were cheaper than 1

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331641083853 ... EBIDX%3AIT

I believe it will be easier (?) to replace all 3 relays and be done with it. If that doesn't work then Doug is going to help me make a new one (he doesn't know that yet)

TOONGA

nncoolg · Post by **nncoolg** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:59 pm

The US guys usually talk in 'compliance date' not 'build date' Steptoe, to my knowledge the 'six month period' thing refers to the XT series 2 turbo, which was only sold there until mid 1987, until the XT6 was sold along side the NA XT4

I have attached the Control Equipment page from the AUS. parts catalog.

It appears that the side the wiper parks on is irrelevant due to the fact that 86571GA100 suits models up until Dec. 1986, but RH parking wipers were fitted to models built from Jan. 1986

So It may be a case of 'if it plugs in it will work' and the part number just being a board revision or you may need to get the matching controller to replace yours for an additional reason.

Whats the build date of your car Toonga?
Does your car still have the variable Int. slider under the LH control wing?
I know Int. operation also depends on vehicle speed, is the speed sensor still connected after your EJ engine fitment?

Post by **TOONGA** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:45 pm

the built date is October 1987 the compliance plate has an 88 stamped on it.

Yes I have the variable slider it even has the knob still. sadly the dimmer for the dash lights had no knob when I bought the car.

The speed sensor is in the speedo and it is connected to the EJ ECU so that the IACV doesn't throw a code.

TOONGA

Post by **Bantum** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:46 pm

Nice find Toonga ...

Don't forget to 'de-solder' as much as you can before removing them :

P.S. - you can't read that attached image ( to small ) nnCoolg

Ciao, Bantum ...

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:34 pm

nah, I have Toongs old ECU and it is the third gen, so must have a post Aug 87 build date, and reading backwards, comfirms.

Post by **TOONGA** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:06 pm

Does anyone know someone in the USA that could help me with posting one of these modules?

Tsubaru has disappeared with out a trace sadly.

TOONGA

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:53 am

TOONGA wrote:
Tsubaru has disappeared with out a trace sadly.

TOONGA

That's what you think !

He is still to send me my hoard of purchases last made three years ago, collecting postage from me only as recent as ..oh, last May ...2014

He is still alive, just very busy, working away from home and was quite active on another forum until recently when we reaquainted. Has new email address, new phone number

See if http://www.priceusa can help with this sort of purchase -used stuff - excellent service for new stuff online, recommended time after time

mattw · Post by **mattw** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:59 am

I will be looking at a Vortex wreck today. Unsure of its build date, will let you know what I find. PM me your phone number and I'll send you pic of the unit. If it checks out I'll buy it for you.

Post by **TOONGA** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:22 pm

mattw wrote:I will be looking at a Vortex wreck today. Unsure of its build date, will let you know what I find. PM me your phone number and I'll send you pic of the unit. If it checks out I'll buy it for you.

A big thanks for your effort today Matt, it is a pity it was the earlier model with the brown module.

Still looking.

TOONGA

mattw · Post by **mattw** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:30 pm

Yeah, sorry it didn't work out. They listed it as an 88 or 89. Turns out its an 86 (turbo 2wd)

Post by **TOONGA** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:30 am

mattw wrote:Yeah, sorry it didn't work out. They listed it as an 88 or 89. Turns out its an 86 (turbo 2wd)

Not a problem Matt I do appreciate the effort

I may have a lead on one of these In the USA it will probably cost around 90 dollars including shipping. I'm not putting up a link, as when I did that on USMB someone promptly bought the part.

At this point it seems to be my only viable way to get a complete module in case I cook the one I have soldering new components on.

TOONGA

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:46 pm

mate just fix the thing! it doesn't work now so you cant make it any worse.

Post by **TOONGA** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:28 pm

vincentvega wrote:mate just fix the thing! it doesn't work now so you cant make it any worse.

when the relays get here I will but a spare will be nice.

TOONGA

Silverbullet · Post by **Silverbullet** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:33 pm

I had a look at the Vortex at the wreckers near me, had the brown plastic unit, internals like the picture you posted of nncoolg's example

mattw · Post by **mattw** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:46 pm

Yeah, did check that one as well.

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