Bratgeebah's brake kit update

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Thu May 03, 2007 7:25 am

Brumby Boy wrote:I will be ordering one of these kits soon, as i would like the L series front control arms with my Brumby kit will i need L series control arms for exchange or will my brumby ones be ok?

Cheers,
Ian

You will need to send me L Series arms.

Brumby Boy · Post by **Brumby Boy** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:50 pm

Bratgeebah wrote:You will need to send me L Series arms.

Damm was hoping i wouldnt have to pull some of the three junkers i just located(yes im just lazy:rolleyes: ) oh well no biggy,
you can suply all documents for this to give to the engineer for a blue plate?

discopotato03 · Post by **discopotato03** » Fri May 04, 2007 5:48 pm

Hi Gareth , I was packing away all my Liberty and L series suspension bits and remembered that the L front springs are smaller diametre than Liberty meaning smaller upper spring seats . I don't suppose by any chance that the Impreza and L series upper spring seat is the same size ? If same then all I'll need is Impreza springs and dampers ie MY94-99 Bilsteins to have the ride height similar if not a tad lower than standard . I changed my RX-T to NSW rego today and the papers say this car weighs 1070 Kg . The 90's era Impreza WRX I believe weighs around 1260Kg so their std front springs should be a good starting place for upgrading L series spring rates .

BTW you should by now have the arms and backing plates I sent you and possibly my kit on its way .

Cheers and thanks , Adrian .

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Mon May 07, 2007 5:43 pm

I think I've tried that, I'll double check it tonight though.

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Mon May 07, 2007 5:44 pm

Oh yeah and the kit should be there any minute.
Gee

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Mon May 07, 2007 6:28 pm

Spring seats don't work. They are so close it's frustrating.
Fulcrum suspension in Bribane can make custom coil springs with any O.D. coil at the top and the bottom (different O.D.'s at the top and bottom too) which will make it work. I thought about making them a part of the kit but there is so much available for Impressas' I didn't bother.
For the record I haven't tried to fit standard Lib. struts in an L (the L Series test car had coilovers) and I can't remember if anyone else has without a lift kit. It might be worth while sticking your tops on and seeing if they fit.
Gee

PeeJay · Post by **PeeJay** » Mon May 07, 2007 7:20 pm

Bratgeebah wrote:For the record I haven't tried to fit standard Lib. struts in an L

I did, they fit with about 3mm clearence. Don't fit with lift kit.

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Tue May 08, 2007 6:06 am

Thanks for that peeJay.
I thought you had done it.
I thought they would fit with the lift, where do they hit?
Gee.

PeeJay · Post by **PeeJay** » Tue May 08, 2007 11:07 am

Because the strut top spacers are offset the spring hits on the side of the strut tower, and it's not something that can be fixed with a hammer either!

Before I got my Impreza struts I had to have the spacer in the wrong way around to get the springs to fit in.

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Tue May 08, 2007 4:48 pm

Brumby Boy wrote:Damm was hoping i wouldnt have to pull some of the three junkers i just located(yes im just lazy:rolleyes: ) oh well no biggy,
you can suply all documents for this to give to the engineer for a blue plate?

Sorry Brumby Boy, didn't see your post. As far as engineering goes at this stage, your engineer just needs to talk to my engineer and if he is a registered engineer my engineer will share his conifidential documents (I don't have a copy). This will see you through. However I am in negotiations with WA Roads to get a universal approval for all road traffic authorities. I just need to give them a bit more paperwork (something I keep putting off!).

Gee

Brumby Boy · Post by **Brumby Boy** » Tue May 08, 2007 6:28 pm

Bratgeebah wrote:Sorry Brumby Boy, didn't see your post. As far as engineering goes at this stage, your engineer just needs to talk to my engineer and if he is a registered engineer my engineer will share his conifidential documents (I don't have a copy). This will see you through. However I am in negotiations with WA Roads to get a universal approval for all road traffic authorities. I just need to give them a bit more paperwork (something I keep putting off!).

Gee

Alright cheers, ill probably give you a ring tomorrow(if i can find your number) sometime to organise my kit, i got approved for my loan friday gone so money is taken care of, just got to go pull some L arms to send with the Liberty backing plates,

Also finaly managed to track down a Handbrake lever for a civic (mission and a half:rolleyes: )

Anyway cheers,
Ian

discopotato03 · Post by **discopotato03** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:57 am

Hi Gee , kit hadn't arrived yesterday morning but local PO suggested most likely yesterday afternoon if posted Friday so fingers crossed this morning .

If you mean the 3G Legacy ones I saw those but I'd imagine the weight of those cars and the springs the Japs fitted to the car would make mine an L of a rollerskate ! The Japanese are famous for using very high spring rates in their aftermarket most likely becaus of the perception that stiff is good .
The thing I did sit up and take notice of was the lower mount for the rear "leg" being eye bolt mount instead of the two bolt upright like the 1G Liberty/Legacy . If this lower bolt/eye is same size as the L uses it may be possible to get something made to fit . The issue will be the front because the back can work temporarily as is .
I have to find out from Gary if all Bilstein fronts have thick enough tubues ie Lib/Imp types to take circlip grooves because if so the fixed seat could be removed and a lower seat fited with std springs as a starting point . I have some rear Billys and springs left over from the Bluebird/Skyline DR30 days and if they use the same low circlip style spring seats and spring diametre it simplifies things .

Cheers A .

Brumby Boy · Post by **Brumby Boy** » Mon May 14, 2007 7:40 pm

Hay man whats that adress again? i lost the bit of paper i wrote it on,

cheers,
ian

tas brumby · Post by **tas brumby** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:30 pm

any of these left ???? my series

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:11 pm

Yep, got a few left
Gee

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:48 pm

Im in the middle of fitting my kit....
Discovered today it looks like you cannot fit Turbo rear discs with the modified backing plates that are supplied with the kit. The rotors are too big in diametere to fit under the lip of the backing plate.
I suppose if you send over turbo backing plates you could get them modified.

No big drama for me...I do have some solid GX rear discs here and I guess the rear's don't do that much of the braking after all.

btw The quality of manufacture is very very good!

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:19 pm

which turbo discs?

turbo liberty are teh same diameter, they are just thicker and ventilated

Bratgeebah · Post by **Bratgeebah** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:42 pm

I'm not sure what disks you have either.
I have vented rears from a Legacy gt on mine and they fit up. Do you have single piston calipers and disks?

Outback bloke · Post by **Outback bloke** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:50 am

Later TT and STi rears are bigger in diametre as well as being vented.

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:53 am

They are vented, actually not sure off the top of my head if the calipers are single pot or not, I will look tonight.
They were supposedly just RS Turbo rear brakes according to the guy I got them off. I'll try and take some better photos tonight.

Here's a pic that shows backing plate/ hub fitted up but with the disc lying on the floor underneath.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~carine3/IMAGE_070.jpg