Bratgeebah's brake kits for early Subaru's

wildhorse · Post by **wildhorse** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:19 pm

i would like a set. But am following up on race style centre nuts first. that could be, to me, a better option

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:06 pm

bratgeebah wrote: Parts that I wont provide are
-disks and calipers (front and rear)
-Liberty steering knuckles & ball joints
-hand brake cables
-hand brake levers
-Liberty master cylinders

I will be providing
-new hubs x2
-backing plate boss x2 (Change over predrilled backing plate on request)
-rear brake lines & centrepost supports x2 (front use Liberty)
-means to blank off holes in Lib. master cylinders for MY vehicles.(no need on L)
-Descriptions,pictures and model numbers for hand brake levers etc
-assistance with drive shaft selction
-cv's & doj part numbers

So even after I sell my L series rear discs, and scorpions with tyres to fund this I am still looking at over a k to upgrade?

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:11 pm

wildhorse wrote:i would like a set. But am following up on race style centre nuts first. that could be, to me, a better option

*shakes head*

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:35 pm

MechaWagon wrote:
wildhorse wrote:i would like a set. But am following up on race style centre nuts first. that could be, to me, a better option

*shakes head*

I agree. There's no way you'll ever be able to legally fit those type of nut onto a road car. there's not enough reduncancy, plus thay've got to last on a car a lot longer than a race car.

wagonist · Post by **wagonist** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:43 pm

wildhorse wrote:Small question G!

What car is this kit for? My brumby is in desperate need for bigger wheels as AWD EJ22 needs better braking and bigger diameter rims. The work you guys are putting in is very substantial and i think it must be appreciated by those knitpickers. If you tell me i can use 5 stud rims on my brumby with this kit, and the price is fair for the effort put in, i am up for a kit.
Cheers for your efforts

It will fit your brumby.
As for knitpicking, I'm wondering if you've got your brumby engineered for the EJ22? I know I'm going to have to get it done for my EJ20T conversion anyway on top of this.
I just don't see that point in paying for a part when I'm not going to use it & now I'm especially curious as to why a new brake line is needed back to the car when one already exists?
Instead of that, wouldn't it be a lttle easier for everyone to have a brake line copied like the disc brake rear end version (the drum brake one can be modified to look identical) though fitting the retaining bracket on may be a little difficult (self tapper, spot weld?)

BTW, I'll look into some of the fitments of the later model twin spots to see if they fit up the same way as the early single spots, it may increase the fitment possibilities.

wildhorse · Post by **wildhorse** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:13 pm

wagonist wrote:
wildhorse wrote:Small question G!

What car is this kit for? My brumby is in desperate need for bigger wheels as AWD EJ22 needs better braking and bigger diameter rims. The work you guys are putting in is very substantial and i think it must be appreciated by those knitpickers. If you tell me i can use 5 stud rims on my brumby with this kit, and the price is fair for the effort put in, i am up for a kit.
Cheers for your efforts
It will fit your brumby.
As for knitpicking, I'm wondering if you've got your brumby engineered for the EJ22? I know I'm going to have to get it done for my EJ20T conversion anyway on top of this.
I just don't see that point in paying for a part when I'm not going to use it & now I'm especially curious as to why a new brake line is needed back to the car when one already exists?
Instead of that, wouldn't it be a lttle easier for everyone to have a brake line copied like the disc brake rear end version (the drum brake one can be modified to look identical) though fitting the retaining bracket on may be a little difficult (self tapper, spot weld?)

BTW, I'll look into some of the fitments of the later model twin spots to see if they fit up the same way as the early single spots, it may increase the fitment possibilities.

It is obvious we are in different states.

WombatRacing · Post by **WombatRacing** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:31 am

I cant wait to see how you go with the compliancing I would love to run some WRX/Liberty wheels on my brumby.

legacytt · Post by **legacytt** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:00 pm

So I take it that the people who have posted the most on this topic will be first in with their dollars in hand?

This may not be a cheap conversion but has been very professionally produced. I have done a few of these now but in a much more "backyard" manner involving welding for the splines into the rear hub, which engineers wouldn't like even though they are plenty strong enough. Well done Gee, I hope people now put their money where their mouth is and support your product and you get the return you derserve for your efforts.

mattw · Post by **mattw** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:11 pm

here here.
my moneys getting dusty, and eaten at by Chrissy. not that my missus realises yet.

can't wait for the final stages of the compliancing process.

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:53 pm

I'd love to be one of the first but other commitments mean it'll have to wait.

I still want a set, but I may have to wait for the next batch.

There will be a next batch right?

Jordan.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:06 am

Thanks for the support Legcy tt.
Testing is tomorrow. (Thurs. 12/01/06).
There's a couple of pics of the test cars here: http://community.webshots.com/user/tmac746

MUDRAT · Post by **MUDRAT** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:53 am

Once again Bratgeebah, the finished product looks amazing.

Are the test cars lowered at all? That Brumby's got a fair bit of camber on the front.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:21 am

The red one is around 2 inch lower and has Tein coilovers on the front and lowered rear shock mounts with rx rear coilovers and the Brumby is 100mm lower and has had extensive rear suspension mods shorter rear shocks, longer radius rods in the front and has the lowest available wrx spring from Kings in the front. I can dial out the front camber if I want.
I have just purchased a 2.5 engine and loom etc for the Brumby so it will be back off the road again post testing at which time I'm looking at making new 'widetrack' suspension for front and rear with motorsport coilovers all round.

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:58 pm

Nice stuff mate, nice stuff.
I've got a set of wheels waiting to go onto my coupe, they look pretty much exactly like the ones on your Leone, off a 99 RX2.5 Lib I think...

So do you have an ETA for production at all? Is this up in the air until testing is complete? Pleeeeassse, I want to be included in the first batch. I have money waiting

PeeJay · Post by **PeeJay** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:04 pm

Let us know when and where to send the monies

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:18 pm

Stage 1 of testing went well with all components of the kit passing all drive and braking tests. Apart from the hubs everything is ready for manufacture. As you may recall from previous posts my original prototype hub was not hardened. Therefore the test cars included one hardened prototype and one ‘un’hardened prototype. I am hoping to get approval for the un-hardened but need to have some durability tests O.Ked by the engineers first. This should happen in the next couple of weeks so apart from that, the Engineers need to inspect each part off the cars and write up their report and test results for the paper work to all be completed for certification. Shouldn’t take too long. Whilst this is happening I will negotiate final prices on parts and order manufacturing to begin in the next two weeks (on all but the hubs). Pricing will be available as soon the hubs are tested (approx 1 mth given other time constraints in my other business) and the finished products available in 2-3 mths (I hope). In the meantime, I will finish installation instructions and other documentation.

WombatRacing · Post by **WombatRacing** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:05 pm

Jezz I feel like a little kid waiting for Xmas to come along(final product 2-3 months). I hope it all runs smooth for you and everything gets passed with flying colours.

BaronVonChickenPants · Post by **BaronVonChickenPants** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:39 pm

Nice work gee, looking forward to hearing how it works out, good luck with all of it, if all goes well I should be able to afford 1 kit from the first batch if theres any left, in 3 months I'll be dancing from leg to leg waiting desperately for some news

Clearly there's been some serious engineering work, some clever thinking and a lot of time, patience and money involved in this, if you don't mind me asking what do you do for a crust?

Jordan.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:55 am

I own a domestic and commercial window cleaning business. After 16 years on the tools I can do most aspects of the job without thinking so that leaves me plenty of time to obssess over my hobby(cars).....(oops and family).

rubasu · Post by **rubasu** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:24 pm

Im in for a kit for my brumby

nice work mate

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