29's under a l-series achievable?

Post by **Alex** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:45 pm

hey all,

im soon to do a six stud conversion to my car (ie re-drilling the hubs) and running 15in rims.

just wondering if anyone has ran 28 or 29inch tyres under a l-series before?

What sort of lift are you running, major scrubbing issues? Did you change around the castor (ie custom radius rods?)

im currently running a 3inch lift, but i'll definitely be getting lifted springs before this happens.

any other things im forgetting about?

thanks for the help

alex

Post by **Alex** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:59 pm

bump....am i by myself for this one??

alex

BrennyV · Post by **BrennyV** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:46 pm

you only posted last night alex give people time :P

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:00 pm

BrennyV wrote:you only posted last night alex give people time :P

No sleep does this to people, they get anxious... Maybe its not just sleep

Alex, what's wrong with what you've got? You should start looking at lifting that power poor liberty you've got, or at least shoving a turbo under the bonnet...

I'll keep an eye on this thread, think it'll be interesting.

Alex, check out Fatz thread and AndrewT's (have i got the right WA guru?) thread on their "monster wagons" they're building...

Cheers

Bennie

BrennyV · Post by **BrennyV** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:21 pm

andrew only has factory forry rims on his wagon atm.

stamp_licker · Post by **stamp_licker** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:15 pm

Ive seen em,215/75 15 bfg, on a l with 2" lift.The suspension was wound up so it was closer to 4" gain in the guards.The front guards were chopped across the bumper line and the rear of the front guard was trimmed backed on a angle.The rear was trimmed on a angle towards the door similar to the fronts.The tyres were mounted on redrilled commodore steelies.Certain Toyota rims keeps the wheels im closer to the body.
I've got a set of pajero steels that are 15 X6 and the offset looks good not sure if they will clear the struts ,i'll get around to it on day.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:21 pm

Would you still have anything resembling a 'crawl' gear with tyres that large ? Not much point if you don't imho.

BrennyV · Post by **BrennyV** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:25 pm

i think we can use alex as our lab rat

tim_81coupe · Post by **tim_81coupe** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:30 am

Lightning_Silver_RX wrote:Would you still have anything resembling a 'crawl' gear with tyres that large ? Not much point if you don't imho.

I couldn't agree more. Look at other fourbies running this size of tyre then look at their reduction gears... you'll be tall - geared to buggery Alex.

Sounds funny coming from a guy who's offroader is currently single range I know, but it is a very valid point.

SuBaRiNo · Post by **SuBaRiNo** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:20 pm

Alex your getting upset at your car breaking. Now you want to do this. It's not going to help the situation. Maybe i should start saving my money now so next time it breaks i can pick up a cheap modified L series.

Dave

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:34 pm

The way Alex changes his mind you probably only need to wait for it to get a flat tyre

I agree...Tim is dead right - you will lose the ability to drive slowly in low range.
However I think you could still cope fairly well offroad. I think the advantages of having huge tyres are good but you just have to be aware of the drawbacks.

- They will put more load on your hubs, stub axels, basically the whole driveline. Expect more breakages unless you take it easy.
- Loose low range driving....however if you use your clutch more and choose good lines you can probably cope with this. It's just a case of adjusting driving habbits, I've been using an Outback gearbox with only 1.1:1 low range gearing and don't really have a problem from this.
- You'll most likely need to cut a fair bit of the firewall out to clear the tyres. Adjustable radius rods will give a "slight" improvement, you can't adjust them very much at all because your control arms get further and further twisted as you go.

I'd experiment a little and try your next few offroad trips without engaging low range at all, see how you go.

brumbyrunner · Post by **brumbyrunner** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:14 am

On the subject of gearing, I calculate that with 30" tyres and 3.9 diff ratio it is like std 23" tyres and a 3:1 diff ratio. Add to that the heavier wheels and tyres. My silver ute stays in low range now because of this. This tranlates to a 4.5:1 ratio.

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:06 am

o subarino. U crack me up.

Post by **Alex** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:57 pm

ok, i might re-think the 29in idea then. Im still going to re-drill my hubs to 6 stud. I like the idea of having 15's and a CHOICE of decent 4x4 tyres.

ta

alex

Matatak · Post by **Matatak** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:04 pm

seriously. Another 2 inchs. Just do it alex

suby87 · Post by **suby87** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:09 pm

Hey
If you want real 4WD tyres you can stick with the 14's and look at maxxis tyres for their mud terrain tyres. Have a look at these I can get them through Jax Quick Fit stores or Bob Jane.
http://www.maxxis.com/products/automoti ... sp?id=5476
Cheers

stamp_licker · Post by **stamp_licker** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:09 pm

I don't understand why things break on a L series with ej22.You don't need to charge like wounded bull as most L drivers do to compensate for lack of power.I got a auto so maybe it makes a difference but it 'll crawl up pretty steep hills no worries .libertys with 28's don't seem to have a prob and they are a heavier car.Another thing if you do run 15" rims you will most likely run a lower profile tyre which will limit its abilty to bag.
Give it a shot.....