Cordia Turbo GSR V L Series EA82T

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:13 pm

Thanks to Tim V for emailing me a copy of his 80's mag article on the L series Turbo. The author praised the Cordia a little more than the RX and its Turbo mate the GLTA

I googled the Cordia to see the super petrol version -1030kg- had 110kW (147bhp) at 6000 and 210Nm at 4000 and the cats piss version -1060- of the 4G62 dropped to 90kW at 5500 rpm, 172Nm at 3000

I reckon the author was a little harsh on our little 4WD turbo

anyone had both to compare on road ?

D3V1L · Post by **D3V1L** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:23 pm

i honestly think the cordia would beat the rx...instock versus stock form....i have 2 family members that had the cordia turbo's and it was a VERY fun car to drive...but keeping that in mind..the only 82turbo ive been in was mine in basically stock form or andrewt's rx which is a little more modified then stock

dave

Subafury · Post by **Subafury** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:46 pm

mine will beat it

sooon

BlackMale · Post by **BlackMale** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:43 pm

D3V1L wrote:i honestly think the cordia would beat the rx...instock versus stock form....i have 2 family members that had the cordia turbo's and it was a VERY fun car to drive...but keeping that in mind..the only 82turbo ive been in was mine in basically stock form or andrewt's rx which is a little more modified then stock

dave

Mine use to beat a mates Cordia (consistantly) and it was stock (except for the exhaust)

Gremlins · Post by **Gremlins** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:43 am

A friend of mine had a Cordia that ran on leaded fuel and the seat of the pants dyno indicated to me the Cordia would be quicker than the RX, infact the first time I experienced full throttle in that car as a passenger I was worried if the seat back was strong enough as I was shoved back very nicely!! (Maybe his car was a freak??) I later owned a Telstar TX5 Turbo (2 Litre) that the seat of the pants dyno also indicated wasn't as quick as my mates Cordia, but I did have a "play" against another mate with a stock Soob RX with nearly 200k km/s on it. The RX kept up well with the TX5 fairly much level pegging it for acceleration up until around 100km/h when the TX5 started pulling away. Must admit though the TX5 had a brilliant 3rd gear and it would pull hard in that gear from just under 60km/h right through to around 140km/h so going through 100km/h in 3rd it was right in it's element.

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:36 am

It is a bit hard comparing the two cars ain't it? The Cordia looks hot in its own way. like the RX. In turbo fours I have only driven my 3 peed auto turbo subie , a 2.2 turbo TX5, and a leaded Cordia with 240,000 on it - ten years apart. I think the Cordia was the safest way to have me brothers girlfriend squeal

and I look forward to having a five speed EA82T soon to compare. Cordia has a very similar weight, but nt so in at what revs the torque and HP is measured. On Mitsu turbo topic, I recently drove a GTO twin turbo V6 AWD jobby - sounded like a jet at certain revs - not bad for 1700kgs + !!

sven '2' · Post by **sven '2'** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:40 pm

cordia GSR (AB) hands down - have had a lot of experience modifying both

they were a very scary car - i seem to remember years ago reading the WA coroner had a crack at their safety after he investigated 7 deaths from two separate MVCs - ie 3 in one crash, 4 in another.

They (and the larger scorpian) were very expensive cars in their day as well around the $35K+ in the 80s.

But simply blew away the dreadful Ford / Holden offerings at the time, and nothing from Europe came close to value and performance

sven

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:00 pm

I know a former NSW highway POliceman who tells me they used Cordias between the V8 Commodes and the VL turbo. Driving style did not change to suit front wheel drive after always being RWD pursuit boys and they wee pulling themselves orf the road !!

Willie · Post by **Willie** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:15 pm

Interesting comparison - which I took part in a few years ago.
A friend was involved in a car club that put on a motorkahna, which he invited me long to. (I had an RX turbo at the time.)
When I started beating the club champion in his Laser TX3 4WD Turbo (the early 1.6 bubble back version) he got a bit miffed and claimed his Laser and his mates Cordia could eat my Subaru.
So we organised to meet up a again and come up with a few challenges that we thought we could beat each other at (2 each). I mentioned this to another mate, who owned a Celica GT4, and he also came along for the day.
I chose a favourite drive of mine, that included dirt and bitumen, and a rudamentary hill climb. He put together a small motorkahna on grass and a drive from Canberra to Thredbo (we ended up doing this on another day about two months later, when we could all agree on a date).
On my circuit of dirt and bitumen, the GT4 (which had a number of mods) was quickest, followed by yours truly, the TX3 and lastly the Cordia. It really didn't like the dirt and had massive traction problems (predictably).
The hill climb was GT4, Cordia, RX and TX3. The Cordia beat me by a bees dick!
The motorkahna was great fun, and this guy could set up some great events. We ended up doing it over and over as a result. At the end of it all, the GT4 won again, followed by the TX3, RX and Cordia - but it was really close with the lead changing a few times.
The drive to Thredbo was really interesting. As it was public roads, we didn't race there, but swapped cars at different poinys so we all got to drive each others car. I wasn't too comfortable with this at first (nor was Chris - owner of said GT4) but we agreed and ended up having a fantastic day. We all agreed at the end of the day the GT4 was the quickest and best handling car of the quartet. I was really surprised how quick the Cordia was - quicker than the RX by a comfortable margin. The TX3 was about as quick as the RX, however it had about 250k kms on the clock - so it would have been interesting to drive it with less mileage under its wheels.
About five weeks after our Thredbo trip, the guy with the TX3 traded it for a GT4.
About 6 months later the guy with the Cordia wrapped it around a large tree down the south coast, killing himself and his girlfriend.................

Chris now drives an RS4 wagon and I have the XT Foz - It's always in your blood!!!

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:46 am

That sounds like a good comparo - not just blowing someone from the lights, thanks for sharing. It's sad that the Cordia guy and his girl came to grief

maxxair · Post by **maxxair** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:32 pm

RIP. all lost ones.

Rebuilt · Post by **Rebuilt** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:37 pm

steptoe wrote:Thanks to Tim V for emailing me a copy of his 80's mag article on the L series Turbo. The author praised the Cordia a little more than the RX and its Turbo mate the GLTA

I googled the Cordia to see the super petrol version -1030kg- had 110kW (147bhp) at 6000 and 210Nm at 4000 and the cats piss version -1060- of the 4G62 dropped to 90kW at 5500 rpm, 172Nm at 3000

I reckon the author was a little harsh on our little 4WD turbo

anyone had both to compare on road ?

Hi Steptoe, any chance of you emailing me a copy of the article please ? Ive owned both the cordia gsr turbo and the starion turbo and they both had exhaust mods but other than that pretty much stock. While my Leone Turbo is nimble, the Mitsubishi's were both considerably quicker and when on boost they gave that push into the seat feeling.

However my wagons exhaust is pretty shagged and it is an auto sometime in the future when the exhaust is fixed and a few other mods Ill be able to give a better review between the two

d_generate · Post by **d_generate** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:34 pm

What ever happened to Roger Cordia...........His web site is down, seems like the fastest (not) Cordia in the world has just drifted into obscurity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci8AOaGh ... re=related

sven '2' · Post by **sven '2'** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:45 pm

This thread is almost as old as the Cordia!

Rebuilt - how did you find it?!

Rebuilt · Post by **Rebuilt** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:43 pm

sven '2' wrote:This thread is almost as old as the Cordia!

Rebuilt - how did you find it?!

hehe I was searching for info on the GLTA, and this was listed, RISE FROM THE DEAD hehe

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:44 pm

SEARCH is a good friend. Gees, mate, that was a while ago on a PC that has expired, soon after I suspect. I agree, I recall the shove back in the seat feel to the GSR that I do not get in my EA82T's and brings us back to Earth that the turbo wasn't really put in to the Subes to race against Cordia's (on the tar anyway) The journos have also compared Turbo Vortex AWD with an Astra of the day, and spoke of the Camry output , really two different species compared....

Reading of AWD Cordias in other markets, that may have been a fairer comparo as both are dragging a diff in the bum

Rebuilt · Post by **Rebuilt** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:51 pm

steptoe wrote:SEARCH is a good friend. Gees, mate, that was a while ago on a PC that has expired, soon after I suspect. I agree, I recall the shove back in the seat feel to the GSR that I do not get in my EA82T's and brings us back to Earth that the turbo wasn't really put in to the Subes to race against Cordia's (on the tar anyway) The journos have also compared Turbo Vortex AWD with an Astra of the day, and spoke of the Camry output , really two different species compared....

Reading of AWD Cordias in other markets, that may have been a fairer comparo as both are dragging a diff in the bum

Yeah I was actually a little disappointed with the power of the GLTA wagon only because I was expecting that big bump on boost, however saying that I do love my wagon, its growing on me more and more everyday.
Every weekend Im doing something minor to it, cant wait to get the exhaust done. It really is a perfect cruiser for me atm, slowly but surely its getting a make over and rejuvenation.

Gannon · Post by **Gannon** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:08 pm

If you can fit an exhaust, an intercooler and increase the boost to about 10psi, then you will feel more of a push.

sven '2' · Post by **sven '2'** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:17 pm

steptoe wrote:SEARCH is a good friend. Gees, mate, that was a while ago on a PC that has expired, soon after I suspect. I agree, I recall the shove back in the seat feel to the GSR that I do not get in my EA82T's and brings us back to Earth that the turbo wasn't really put in to the Subes to race against Cordia's (on the tar anyway) The journos have also compared Turbo Vortex AWD with an Astra of the day, and spoke of the Camry output , really two different species compared....

Reading of AWD Cordias in other markets, that may have been a fairer comparo as both are dragging a diff in the bum

Indeed.

I recall back in the day dudes buying Grandma-spec Mitsu Colts, modding the floor plans like the JDM version, and dropping the Cordia's driveline + a AWD box.

My mate had a ride on one when he doubted the rationale for it - he thought he was going to die.

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:43 pm

Felt much the same in an SR20DET in a Gemini

Huh, 10 psi bost in front wheel drive is well ..slipppery, and in the wet, shove her in 4WD, does anyway with wipers eh ?
I am wearing out some near new Federals that were on my Touring Wagon, they stop OK in the wet but ask anything of them in the wet in FWD and it is redickerless - even lose traction in 4WetD. Bob J's running on the rear need a little more sideways grip