pics of EA82 in Brumby - no rail mods !

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:09 pm

OK, fair is fair. i have seen an EA82T sitting in a standard height Brumby a few years back, so should not have asked as others have said you need the special rare wide chassis MY or cut the rails or modify with a BFH or the like, portapower. Others have sad one of our legends Tim81coupe had measured one up to not fit. Others have got EA82 in MY but never to my knowledge contributed the detail.

I am in the middle of a EA81 225mm clutch change in the Brumby, my EA82 hybrid of carb block turbo efi heads and intake to be fitted initially as NA LPG to my Brumby engine sitting just too close to the action, got hoisted up without flywheel or eng mounts to get in the way of lining up - could not stand two challenges of same in one day ! I dropped the EA82 in to see the fine tolerances that show in the pics - just a smidge less that what I remembered but.... it fits. It is a bit lower than where mounts would have it, but it fits. Chassis may need rubber lining to prevent knock, and rocker covers better not leak as engine needs a lift to remove them.

Pics to follow as have sent them to those who possess superior bigger pcture posting than I

suby rebel · Post by **suby rebel** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:32 pm

I agree it fits here is a pic

Tim

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:03 pm

Cool good stuff. Any pics that show the clearance?
I would be in favor of a few swift whacks with the BFH instead of putting bits of rubber, would prefer not to have any contact at all, but each to their own. Maybe there are some ridges or other bits on the rocker covers that could be thinned out abit with a dremmel tool too? Or ultra thin head gaskets

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:27 pm

ahhh! pisser bottle relocation took place too !

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:30 pm

and coil stayed put ! I am considering relocating it when doing changeover

T'subaru · Post by **T'subaru** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:57 pm

Here's the pic's

T'subaru · Post by **T'subaru** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:59 pm

and a few more

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:19 pm

Thanks Mark, and so early in the morning too. Must find, make time, to learn this next step of bigger pics.

The lowest pic of last post there is the LHS, phew, see the clearance? Next one up is the RHS.

The clearance issue is really with the rear most part of the rocker covers as the timng belts have oodles of room, yet there is some symetry missing. Looks like minimal clear at LHS rear but the timing case has more room on LHS than on the right.The clearances are 'similar' to what I have sen before do not thinking it is any gearbox mount issue.

Mark has blown the covers on my transmission support tool - beats stuffing around underneath with a hydraulic jack. I just use chain to grab hold of the centre bolt excess and adjust the long nut on the threaded rod hook.

Oh, and excuse the dirty engine bay, didn't want water dripping all over the place - like down me neck or ears

1111giles · Post by **1111giles** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:36 am

You beat me to the piccy post Mark !
Boy those clearances are close !

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:42 pm

guess that is why they are called 'clearances'

Don't want it to be an interference fit

suby rebel · Post by **suby rebel** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:52 pm

The clearance is close a small amount of ajustment went on (not by me) with a hammer on the LHS here is the pics I took when I got the car I centerd the block and made new tranny mounts so it no longer pushed on the left side tunnel.
Left

Right

Will try to get more picts if u want to see more will hav to wait till weekend though

Tim

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:05 pm

heh, so to make the engine fit comfortably, without any chance of hitting the rails during driving, the rails required modification? yes/no ?

suby rebel · Post by **suby rebel** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:15 pm

Yes but it does not hit at all not even with hard acceleration I put over pits like this passed first time no fix up ether been on road like this for 2 years now no probs.

Tim

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:21 pm

cool that's good to know. I guess Tim81Coupe was playing it safe for his at the time. Most others I know of have needed to do the mod but because of quadcam EJ's.

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:43 pm

I still don't understand why you'd drop an EA82 into an MY - a carbie upgrade would be a better option IMO as the '81 carb is smaller than an '82's...

Cheers

Bennie

wrxer · Post by **wrxer** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:53 pm

heaps of room. little tap with a hammer would double the room.
clearances are not symetrical left to right because the heads are staggered.

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:30 am

of course the stagger is right along to the front where timing belt covers also appear to have different clearances - like any V of flat config. Good one wrxer - for putting the words to the scren !

Bennie - why? Oh, thought you were going to get on the EJ soapbox understandably.

EA81 has about 460,000km on it, the EA82 short had 188,000 when it came out and ran really well even after the previous owner near cooked it each day between home and uni, uni and home

Screwed some mpfi heads on it to see how it goes on LPG. EA82 mpfi heads and inlet tract will breathe better than almost anything I can do for EA81 in NA form - breathing will not be its downfall - just lack of power and valves

That rusty bonnet adds character to the Brumby there

suby rebel · Post by **suby rebel** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:28 pm

Ok first I did not drop the ea82 in this brumby I pick up unfinish prodject cheap wanted the wheels decided to finish as it was alomst done. the bonnet has been painted now, the stagger was before I fixed the engine mounts and replaced gearbox mounts with new ea81 ones previously had one of each ie:ea81 & ea82. Sorry about hijacking your thred steptoe.

Tim

steptoe · Post by **steptoe** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:20 am

no hijack - input is welcome

Seing someone pic of coil in original spot but with a loooong coil lead has saved me some concern on moving coil and wires - HECK just git a longer lead dude !!

YouTube · Post by **El_Freddo** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:58 pm

AndrewT wrote:cool that's good to know. I guess Tim81Coupe was playing it safe for his at the time. Most others I know of have needed to do the mod but because of quadcam EJ's.

I thought Tim had lift on his MY? By the look of T'subaru's pics you're all good if you're not running with lift - any lift and you'll have cam cover clearance issue I'd reckon...

steptoe wrote:Bennie - why? Oh, thought you were going to get on the EJ soapbox understandably.

No not this time, I was curious. If I couldn't EJ an L again, I'd probably drop an EA81 with a weber and warm cam in it... maybe...

steptoe wrote:EA81 has about 460,000km on it, the EA82 short had 188,000 when it came out and ran really well

That makes sense I guess...

Cheers

Bennie