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Post by RSR 555 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:17 am

Oh yes sorry 3 and 9 when the caliper is in the correct position. I was talking about relative to the caliper itself, when is pivoted up into the service position.

And yes, it's to line up for the position pins on the pads
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Post by NightHawk » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:03 am

Ahh, I see it now. But man I had a huge problem getting the pistons in, it seems they have rusted on the very edge and I had to take 'em out and use a very fine sandpaper on them in order to be able to slip them in completely. I started this thinking it was a piece of cake, but I ran into a problem after another and doing it out in the cold isn't fun :S. In comparison it's like working on your car inside the fridge with a fan :P
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Post by steptoe » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:09 am

I use steel wool for polishing up the pistons and bore - if that helps. It may help to warm the caliper to 40C in the oven for a while :)

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Post by RSR 555 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:29 pm

NightHawk wrote:In comparison it's like working on your car inside the fridge with a fan :P
Or you could work in the oven (Down Under) with temps of 42degs
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Post by NightHawk » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:17 am

15°c would be the optimal, I wouldn't mind it staying constant that way all year :P.

I'm all done, however the loud noise only stopped on the driver side. There is still loud rattling/scratching noise on the passenger side. Almost like the axle is a little loose. Does that sound like the bearing is toast as well?
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Post by RSR 555 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:32 am

NightHawk wrote:15°c would be the optimal, I wouldn't mind it staying constant that way all year
Too cold for us.. needs to be around 26deg for us over here.
NightHawk wrote:I'm all done, however the loud noise only stopped on the driver side. There is still loud rattling/scratching noise on the passenger side. Almost like the axle is a little loose. Does that sound like the bearing is toast as well?
Most likely the big nut is still loose, try and do it up as hard as you can. You won't hurt it but it needs to be up extremely tight.
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Post by NightHawk » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:04 pm

I put all my weight on that nut and jumped on that wrench until the pin hole was aligned so it should be pretty tight :P. It seems the whole thing is moving a bit from inside.
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Post by RSR 555 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:57 pm

A very big must, is to make sure the taper washer doesn't have a 'lip' on it, as this will stop you tightening it up as much as you need. If you still have play, then you may have worn bearings???
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Post by El_Freddo » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:08 pm

RSR 555 wrote:Too cold for us.. needs to be around 26deg for us over here.
23 over here is a great temp especially if you're physically exerting yourself!

But I'll take anything over 23 to 30 degrees C :twisted:

Back on the actual topic, make sure you check your stone guard isn't rubbing on the rotor.

Also make sure the bolts that hold the rotor to the hub are done up properly - I've had them come loose before... Not much fun!

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Post by NightHawk » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:27 am

I jacked it up and moved the wheel by hand and notice a bit of rattling noise coming from inside where the axle goes in. Also the wheel doesn't turn effortlessly even with no resistance from the brakes.
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Post by NightHawk » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:58 pm

Do you guys know the specs of the bearings? I'm looking into getting Swedish SKF bearing, very good stuff :).
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Post by RSR 555 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:36 am

Not sure if SKF do the wheel bearing kit for your model. NTN & Temkin (both are good quality) do one for your model. Then kit number is 1162
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Post by NightHawk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:41 am

I got the VKBA 1418 kit from SKF. Turns out SKF is the only brand I could get locally. They are not closed but I live in the city now so there's not much dust going on, just alot of salt. I hope there's nothing more broken, my wallet is taking quite a hit on this one :P
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Post by steptoe » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:29 am

NightHawk wrote:I got the VKBA 1418 kit from SKF. Turns out SKF is the only brand I could get locally. They are not closed but I live in the city now so there's not much dust going on, just alot of salt. I hope there's nothing more broken, my wallet is taking quite a hit on this one :P
Wait until you get our bill for advice :D

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Post by RSR 555 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:12 am

Cool. They need to be open so you can pack them with grease. The kit comes with dust seals, so you shouldn't get any crap inside them when fitted.
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Post by NightHawk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:25 pm

steptoe wrote:Wait until you get our bill for advice :D
That's easy, I'll just pay that one back with computer advice ;)
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Post by NightHawk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:27 pm

RSR 555 wrote:Cool. They need to be open so you can pack them with grease. The kit comes with dust seals, so you shouldn't get any crap inside them when fitted.
Oh good. They go in after the weekend, I'm looking forward to the smooth ride after :cool:
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Post by El_Freddo » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:45 pm

RSR 555 wrote:Cool. They need to be open so you can pack them with grease. The kit comes with dust seals, so you shouldn't get any crap inside them when fitted.
Are you saying that the caliper piston's dust seals should be packed with grease? Great, when I replaced all the seals on my calipers I didn't add grease in there :(

What type do you use?

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Post by RSR 555 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:05 pm

El_Freddo wrote:Are you saying that the caliper piston's dust seals should be packed with grease? Great, when I replaced all the seals on my calipers I didn't add grease in there :(

What type do you use?
No Bennie.. we are talking about the wheel bearings
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Post by El_Freddo » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:30 pm

RSR 555 wrote:No Bennie.. we are talking about the wheel bearings
Glad to hear it!

I was wondering why you'd be putting grease near the brakes, but then doubted my judgement as the boot would retain it - until you split a boot!

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