libs off road

Subafury · Post by **Subafury** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:04 am

i will be gettin a liberty very soon and was wondering how these AWD's go in the sand. i assume they dont have a low range?
also i know gound clearance could be a poblem - but thats what lift kits are for.

i hope i can find a manual AWD. (havent seen like any fs in the past couple weeks.)
any comments would be great

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:41 am

They go very well offroad especially in the sand. I'm not talking from direct personal experience (although I will be soon!) but I've seen alot of Aspro's car flogging around offroad. Very very capable and this is without even adding a rear LSD yet.

Also....ALOT of the AWD Manual Libs actually do come with low range, although I think this might only be the wagons? Either way the dual range gearboxes are not impossible to come by. Aspro is running one of these (3.9 ratio dual range AWD from a Lib).

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:38 pm

you wont be disappointed

http://home.curl.aunz.net/subaman/sube.MPG

PeeJay · Post by **PeeJay** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:52 pm

Low range is only a 1:1.1 reduction. When I first got my car I thought it didn't work because I couldn't notice any change!

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:55 pm

Yeah but I rekon the massive torque increase from EA to EJ makes up for it!!

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:59 pm

its actually closer to 1.2:1

if you want decent low range fit an L series low range gearset or buy an auto

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:17 pm

It's 1:1.196 Dane

The auto's are brilliant on sand - you have to drive one to believe it!

Suby Wan Kenobi · Post by **Suby Wan Kenobi** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:07 am

Having owned both the auto and manual in turbo and non turbo derivatives i can say with either transmission you wont be sorry, the auto is great and with a centre lock mod are pretty much fool proof. Many of us here have manual versions in both turbo and non turbo and highly recomend them.

Subafury · Post by **Subafury** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:10 am

cheers for the info fellas.
i still havent come across any manuals in the paper or online - within my 4k price range anyway. a few autos - my dad checked out one that was pretty good apart from $ but it also had adjustable suspension. the seller reckons it can go up like a couple inches. wouldnt even need a lift kit then(note: need). does this come with many?

might have to seriously look at some more autos then even though id prefer a man for a daily driver.

SUBYDAZZ · Post by **SUBYDAZZ** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:15 am

It takes some practice and common sense, but yeah they go great on sand, lift & bigger tyres would be an advantage for the softer stuff.

See pics below from Stockton Beach, NSW.

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:30 pm

your mission: to take your stocko liberty places nobody has ever taken them before...

love your work daz.

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:08 pm

That lib in the video seems to be having heaps of trouble making it through that bit of sand. Redlining the tits off it...

I'm sure thats just for fun tho

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:38 am

the videos of that hill climb dont come anywhere near showing how steep or rutted it was. and very soft!

took me 3 goes to get up, but i always try the slow option first. This was a flat to the floor only hill

AndrewT · Post by **AndrewT** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:14 pm

hehe yeah...

My technique is to watch a couple of other people go up then follow slightly faster

Bumpty · Post by **Bumpty** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:40 am

How many lifted libs are there on here?
gen1?
gen2?

vincentvega · Post by **vincentvega** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:42 pm

shitloads.

take a look at the front page of http://www.subaclub.com

stamp_licker · Post by **stamp_licker** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:56 pm

Bumpty wrote:How many lifted libs are there on here?
gen1?
gen2?

There's even a few gen 3 and 4
lifted on here.

Subafury · Post by **Subafury** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:58 pm

wow. way to dig up an old thread. that was when i was between cars and ended up buying my current L haha

Post by **yarney** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:16 pm

This is the difference between standard low range and l_series low range the wagon is std and ran out of puff on the second last clip worth doing if you go off road a lot.

Jan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6uujuVpTM

Bumpty · Post by **Bumpty** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:13 pm

vincentvega wrote:shitloads.

take a look at the front page of http://www.subaclub.com

But I want to look at them closely (read a my car section), get ideas etc for mine. Does the suba club have a my car section I can view?

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